In this paper, we present findings from a qualitative interview study, which highlights the difficulties and challenges with quantifying carbon emissions and discusses how to move productively through these challenges by drawing insights from studies of deep uncertainty. Our research study focuses on the digital sector and was governed by the following research question: how do practitioners researching, working, or immersed in the broad area of sustainable digitisation (researchers, industry, NGOs, and policy representatives) understand and engage with quantifying carbon? Our findings show how stakeholders struggled to measure carbon emissions across complex systems, the lack of standardisation to assist with this, and how these challenges led stakeholders to call for more data to address this uncertainty. We argue that these calls for more data obscure the fact that there will always be uncertainty, and that we must learn to govern from within it.

Keywords: ICT; adaptive governance; carbon emissions; digital technologies; sociology of knowledge; uncertainty.

在这篇论文中，我们介绍了一项定性访谈研究的发现，该研究强调了量化碳排放的困难和挑战，并讨论了如何通过借鉴深度不确定性研究的见解来有效应对这些挑战。我们的研究重点是数字领域，并由以下研究问题指导：从事可持续数字化相关研究、工作或沉浸其中的专业人士（包括研究人员、行业代表、非政府组织和政策制定者）是如何理解和参与量化碳排放的？我们的发现表明，利益相关者在复杂系统中测量碳排放方面遇到了困难，缺乏标准化措施来协助这一过程，并且这些挑战导致利益相关者呼吁提供更多数据以解决这种不确定性。我们认为，寻求更多数据掩盖了一个事实，即始终存在不确定性，我们必须学会在这种不确定性的环境中进行治理。

关键词：信息技术；适应性治理；碳排放；数字技术；知识社会学；不确定性。